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$/$-AMX Valued Member


Posts: 123
Age: 29 Location: Madison, WI.
 | Subject: M123/M125's TH844 / V-300 to VT370M conversion . . . January 20th 2010, 3:13 am | |
| The TH884 LeRoi Gas V-8 297hp@2,600rpm & ???TQ@????RPM. The V-300 Cummins is a 785Ci V-8 NA diesel makes 300hp@3,000rpm & 900tq@2,000rpm. The VT370M Cummins is a 785Ci V-8 Turbo charged diesel makes 375hp@2,800rpm & 1150tq@1,600rpm. What I want to do is interchange them, which i think should be some what easy as they are the same engine. The 370 is a turbo charged version of the 300, neither of which have anything to do with the 300hp V903 Cummins.  any known issues with interchanging the 2 engines ? Mike ================================================ 1953 Studebaker M275.
1962 GMC K4500.
1969 AMC AMX.
1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000.
1977 Ford F350.
1988 AMC Jeep MJ.
1992 Trans AM GTA.
1995 GMC K2500.
2007 Honda Rubicon.
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merlin5577 Admin


Posts: 2562
Age: 25 Location: Taunton, MA
 | Subject: Re: M123/M125's TH844 / V-300 to VT370M conversion . . . January 20th 2010, 3:31 am | |
| If the motor dimentions are the same, the motor mounts should be the same, so it 'should' bolt right it in. Is there something specific your concerned about? ================================================ -Robert. My Trucks;2003 Chevrolet Silverado K2500HD 4X4 6.6L w/Allison 1000 1997 GMC Suburban K1500 4X4 5.7L w/4L60-E"If you dont stand behind our troops, feel free to stand in front of them." |
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$/$-AMX Valued Member


Posts: 123
Age: 29 Location: Madison, WI.
 | Subject: Re: M123/M125's TH844 / V-300 to VT370M conversion . . . January 20th 2010, 3:39 am | |
| Turbo charger placement, i am not sure how the Turbo is mounted nor how it is plumbed into the system.
Plus i want to make sure they are interchangeable before entering into such a project.
I really should be asking if the VT370 is interchangeably with the 844 LeRoi V-8 Gas engine, as there is a bed less M125 down the rad i could get i think for a deal . . .
Tho the 785 Cummins was used to repower the 844 LeRoi . . .
Mike ================================================ 1953 Studebaker M275.
1962 GMC K4500.
1969 AMC AMX.
1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000.
1977 Ford F350.
1988 AMC Jeep MJ.
1992 Trans AM GTA.
1995 GMC K2500.
2007 Honda Rubicon.
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007jimmy Moderator


Posts: 1535
Age: 25 Location: levittown, PA
 | Subject: Re: M123/M125's TH844 / V-300 to VT370M conversion . . . January 20th 2010, 3:45 am | |
| if you get the wiring harness and ecu for the new motor then everything else should be cake.. try to get a section of the downpipe on the new motor as well cause it will make fabing up the new exhuast sustem alot easier.. if the truck came with the new motor as an option then you should be able to find everything you need.. sounds like a fun project and i think youll be alright.. they are the same motor esentially beside the turbo and it can be mounted anywhere it will fit so i wouldnt worry to much about placement.. ================================================ MUSTANG = Must Use Supercharger or Turbo Against N/A Gm You Have To Love Boosted Cars. I Would Rather Be Blown Than Stroked Anyday!  |
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French277

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Location: Wi / Paris France { In France now }
 | Subject: Re: M123/M125's TH844 / V-300 to VT370M conversion . . . January 20th 2010, 3:47 am | |
| Je ne pense pas que vous vous heurterez à n'importe quelle question majeure avec les deux moteur gardent cependant juste dans votre avis le turbo verison sera peu de diffrent que le moteur standard fondé.
Le turbo sera au dos de la vallée de moteur donc vous devrez exécuter le nouveau pot d'échappement du turbo.
Comme loin pour votre système de refroidissement si votre moteur d'expiqûre ne vous a pas surchauffés devrait être ok avec cela mais avec le turbo verison vous peut vouloir observer l'eau tempture un peu plus tout près empêcher n'importe quelle question avec cela.
Pour tout le reste je suis assez sûr qu'il est le même.
Vous estimerez que le toqure viendra sur plus premier que non le turbo verison
I don't think you will run into any major issue with both engine however just keep in your mind the turbo verison will be little diffrent than standard engine set up.
The turbo will be at back of the engine valley so you will have to run the new exhaust pipe from the turbo.
As far for your cooling system if your exsting engine did not overheat you should be ok with it but with the turbo verison you may want to watch the water tempture little more closer to prevent any issue with it.
For everything else I am pretty sure it is the same.
You will feel the toqure will come on more early than non turbo verison
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007jimmy Moderator


Posts: 1535
Age: 25 Location: levittown, PA
 | Subject: Re: M123/M125's TH844 / V-300 to VT370M conversion . . . January 20th 2010, 3:53 am | |
| holy english batman.. lol. i didnt get a word of that.. ================================================ MUSTANG = Must Use Supercharger or Turbo Against N/A Gm You Have To Love Boosted Cars. I Would Rather Be Blown Than Stroked Anyday!  |
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$/$-AMX Valued Member


Posts: 123
Age: 29 Location: Madison, WI.
 | Subject: Re: M123/M125's TH844 / V-300 to VT370M conversion . . . January 20th 2010, 3:54 am | |
| So what about the 844 Leroi truck ? what if i end up buying the truck with the Gasser ?
T-H844 LeRoi ?
Mike ================================================ 1953 Studebaker M275.
1962 GMC K4500.
1969 AMC AMX.
1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000.
1977 Ford F350.
1988 AMC Jeep MJ.
1992 Trans AM GTA.
1995 GMC K2500.
2007 Honda Rubicon.
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007jimmy Moderator


Posts: 1535
Age: 25 Location: levittown, PA
 | Subject: Re: M123/M125's TH844 / V-300 to VT370M conversion . . . January 20th 2010, 3:58 am | |
| if you buy the truck with a gas motor its probley gonna take a little more fab skills. mainly just moving your engine and tranny mounts but it can be done.. i have stuffed a 454 into a 79 firebird only to take it back out and mount an ls1 motor out of a vette in the same day.. the tranny mount is the hard part. even if you are able to keep the same tranny you still have to worry about having to move it forward or back and get your driveline angle right. ================================================ MUSTANG = Must Use Supercharger or Turbo Against N/A Gm You Have To Love Boosted Cars. I Would Rather Be Blown Than Stroked Anyday!  |
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$/$-AMX Valued Member


Posts: 123
Age: 29 Location: Madison, WI.
 | Subject: Re: M123/M125's TH844 / V-300 to VT370M conversion . . . January 22nd 2010, 2:31 am | |
| I guess so man . . .
Mike ================================================ 1953 Studebaker M275.
1962 GMC K4500.
1969 AMC AMX.
1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000.
1977 Ford F350.
1988 AMC Jeep MJ.
1992 Trans AM GTA.
1995 GMC K2500.
2007 Honda Rubicon.
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$/$-AMX Valued Member


Posts: 123
Age: 29 Location: Madison, WI.
 | Subject: Re: M123/M125's TH844 / V-300 to VT370M conversion . . . February 26th 2010, 12:28 pm | |
| ================================================ 1953 Studebaker M275.
1962 GMC K4500.
1969 AMC AMX.
1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000.
1977 Ford F350.
1988 AMC Jeep MJ.
1992 Trans AM GTA.
1995 GMC K2500.
2007 Honda Rubicon.
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007jimmy Moderator


Posts: 1535
Age: 25 Location: levittown, PA
 | Subject: Re: M123/M125's TH844 / V-300 to VT370M conversion . . . February 26th 2010, 1:00 pm | |
| holy crap... can i have them axles.. lol.. they would be industuctable under my jimmy.. lol ================================================ MUSTANG = Must Use Supercharger or Turbo Against N/A Gm You Have To Love Boosted Cars. I Would Rather Be Blown Than Stroked Anyday!  |
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merlin5577 Admin


Posts: 2562
Age: 25 Location: Taunton, MA
 | Subject: Re: M123/M125's TH844 / V-300 to VT370M conversion . . . February 26th 2010, 4:33 pm | |
| Holy huge! What are you going to be using that for Mike? ================================================ -Robert. My Trucks;2003 Chevrolet Silverado K2500HD 4X4 6.6L w/Allison 1000 1997 GMC Suburban K1500 4X4 5.7L w/4L60-E"If you dont stand behind our troops, feel free to stand in front of them." |
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$/$-AMX Valued Member


Posts: 123
Age: 29 Location: Madison, WI.
 | Subject: Re: M123/M125's TH844 / V-300 to VT370M conversion . . . February 28th 2010, 9:36 pm | |
| I don't really have a flat out use for it . . . per say i was just going to use it for fun and playing around . . .
Mike ================================================ 1953 Studebaker M275.
1962 GMC K4500.
1969 AMC AMX.
1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000.
1977 Ford F350.
1988 AMC Jeep MJ.
1992 Trans AM GTA.
1995 GMC K2500.
2007 Honda Rubicon.
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In2Trux Moderator


Posts: 991
Age: 48 Location: North Bay Ont, Canada
 | Subject: Re: M123/M125's TH844 / V-300 to VT370M conversion . . . February 28th 2010, 9:38 pm | |
| What are ya talking about ??? It'll make a sweet grocery getter LOL  LOL ================================================ Glenn ***************************************************** I'am for the Preservation and Restoration of our heritage which includes our old trucks. ***************************************************** 07 Silverado 2500HD CCSB DMax (Daily Driver) 05 Volvo V70R (Totaled by an Impaired Driver) 57 Chevy Panel Van (project) 57 Mack B61 (for sale) 87 Chevy Kodiak Tilt N Load (SOLD Aug 03/10)
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$/$-AMX Valued Member


Posts: 123
Age: 29 Location: Madison, WI.
 | Subject: Re: M123/M125's TH844 / V-300 to VT370M conversion . . . February 28th 2010, 9:40 pm | |
| It's a Mack Mike ================================================ 1953 Studebaker M275.
1962 GMC K4500.
1969 AMC AMX.
1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000.
1977 Ford F350.
1988 AMC Jeep MJ.
1992 Trans AM GTA.
1995 GMC K2500.
2007 Honda Rubicon.
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In2Trux Moderator


Posts: 991
Age: 48 Location: North Bay Ont, Canada
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$/$-AMX Valued Member


Posts: 123
Age: 29 Location: Madison, WI.
 | Subject: Re: M123/M125's TH844 / V-300 to VT370M conversion . . . March 1st 2010, 1:15 am | |
| Now you get it . . . I don't have single use for it, i'm going to do anything and everyhthing it'll allow me to do with it maybe attempt a few things i shouldn't LOL ;-) !
Mike ================================================ 1953 Studebaker M275.
1962 GMC K4500.
1969 AMC AMX.
1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000.
1977 Ford F350.
1988 AMC Jeep MJ.
1992 Trans AM GTA.
1995 GMC K2500.
2007 Honda Rubicon.
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$/$-AMX Valued Member


Posts: 123
Age: 29 Location: Madison, WI.
 | Subject: Re: M123/M125's TH844 / V-300 to VT370M conversion . . . March 5th 2010, 6:19 pm | |
| Well WI voted to BAN Military vehicles from the road road way's they can on be plated with Historic Military Vehicle plates and used for meets and parades . . .
So that shoot this in the tail, it also means my 53' Stude M275er is now only worth scrap to me . . .
Mike ================================================ 1953 Studebaker M275.
1962 GMC K4500.
1969 AMC AMX.
1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000.
1977 Ford F350.
1988 AMC Jeep MJ.
1992 Trans AM GTA.
1995 GMC K2500.
2007 Honda Rubicon.
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merlin5577 Admin


Posts: 2562
Age: 25 Location: Taunton, MA
 | Subject: Re: M123/M125's TH844 / V-300 to VT370M conversion . . . March 10th 2010, 7:18 pm | |
| Thats ridiculous! ================================================ -Robert. My Trucks;2003 Chevrolet Silverado K2500HD 4X4 6.6L w/Allison 1000 1997 GMC Suburban K1500 4X4 5.7L w/4L60-E"If you dont stand behind our troops, feel free to stand in front of them." |
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In2Trux Moderator


Posts: 991
Age: 48 Location: North Bay Ont, Canada
 | Subject: Re: M123/M125's TH844 / V-300 to VT370M conversion . . . March 13th 2010, 4:59 pm | |
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